Coast at End

Discussion about Simplify 3D software
User avatar
LePaul
Reactions:
Posts: 3171
Joined: February 7th, 2016, 10:26 pm
Location: Bangor, Maine USA
3D Printer(s): Ultimaker 2+, FT-5, CR-10, CR-10S, Tevo Tornado
Contact:

Re: Coast at End

Post by LePaul » May 5th, 2017, 6:06 pm

Okay, here's what my settings are...let me know what you think?

One thing I spotted was the retraction distance was 0.70 Perhaps up that to 1.0 ?

And you suggested unchecking the "Only retract when crossing open spaces", correct?
S3D_Adv_Capture.JPG

User avatar
Neotko
Reactions:
Posts: 1142
Joined: February 7th, 2016, 7:02 pm
Location: Madrid
3D Printer(s): UMO+ x2.5
Contact:

Re: Coast at End

Post by Neotko » May 5th, 2017, 6:44 pm

The more you raise that, less retractions will occur.

Yea, disable that, but mind that will increase the retraction amount (bad feeders can grind).

User avatar
LePaul
Reactions:
Posts: 3171
Joined: February 7th, 2016, 10:26 pm
Location: Bangor, Maine USA
3D Printer(s): Ultimaker 2+, FT-5, CR-10, CR-10S, Tevo Tornado
Contact:

Re: Coast at End

Post by LePaul » May 5th, 2017, 9:42 pm

I'll leave the distance alone
I will do a test print with the 'Only retract when crossing open spaces' disabled

User avatar
LePaul
Reactions:
Posts: 3171
Joined: February 7th, 2016, 10:26 pm
Location: Bangor, Maine USA
3D Printer(s): Ultimaker 2+, FT-5, CR-10, CR-10S, Tevo Tornado
Contact:

Re: Coast at End

Post by LePaul » May 7th, 2017, 4:51 pm

That being unchecked made a difference

New print on left
IMG_6833.JPG

User avatar
nilrog
Reactions:
Posts: 434
Joined: February 24th, 2016, 4:48 pm
Location: Örsundsbro, Sweden
3D Printer(s): UMO+

Re: Coast at End

Post by nilrog » May 12th, 2017, 2:31 am

As neotko pointed out several times...extruding plastics is a delicate process...with many variables.
nilrog wrote:I played with this a bit and I could reduce the size of those blobs...but I could not get rid of them completely...and there was a limit when increasing the value didn't improve anything. So to completely get rid of those blobs takes some experimenting and fiddling with more settings :P
I mentioned here that I had great success reducing blobs with "Coast at end" by increasing it slightly from the setting in the S3D profile I started with. But...on some prints...mainly those with little to no retractions...fiddling with this setting reveals another problem...the opposite of blobs...tiny holes in the surface :P

Right now my printer is down due to a change to the #gudoZGE but once it's up and running again with a working S3D profile I will be playing more with this...and neotko's negative retract distance tip is a top candidate :)

But as with so much else...I don't expect to find A profile that fits all kinds of prints...there will always be compromises...

User avatar
LePaul
Reactions:
Posts: 3171
Joined: February 7th, 2016, 10:26 pm
Location: Bangor, Maine USA
3D Printer(s): Ultimaker 2+, FT-5, CR-10, CR-10S, Tevo Tornado
Contact:

Re: Coast at End

Post by LePaul » May 12th, 2017, 11:42 am

I agree, and to Simplify 3D's credit, the clean menu layout of options is WORLDS easier than Cura's "search search and search" method

User avatar
nilrog
Reactions:
Posts: 434
Joined: February 24th, 2016, 4:48 pm
Location: Örsundsbro, Sweden
3D Printer(s): UMO+

Re: Coast at End

Post by nilrog » May 12th, 2017, 11:52 am

Once you've seen the light you don't want to turn to the dark side again :lol:

User avatar
LePaul
Reactions:
Posts: 3171
Joined: February 7th, 2016, 10:26 pm
Location: Bangor, Maine USA
3D Printer(s): Ultimaker 2+, FT-5, CR-10, CR-10S, Tevo Tornado
Contact:

Re: Coast at End

Post by LePaul » May 12th, 2017, 12:04 pm

Well in fairness, there are some prints Cura tromps all over Simplify 3D on. Case in point, those simple circles. Cura nailed it the first time. No crazy setting changes chasing down why blobs occurred. It. Just. Worked.

And then there are some where S3D wins.

User avatar
nilrog
Reactions:
Posts: 434
Joined: February 24th, 2016, 4:48 pm
Location: Örsundsbro, Sweden
3D Printer(s): UMO+

Re: Coast at End

Post by nilrog » May 12th, 2017, 12:17 pm

I'm not saying that Cura is bad...for its price point...but if it had a similar prize to S3D...I would not buy it.

Also with 2.x it lost its ease-of-use in favor of a gazillion settings, with "hidden" settings, and obscure connections between them. And Cura 2.x is a fast moving target so what you "understand" today might change in the next version etc.

The only Cura I still use now is 15.04...but that's me :)

User avatar
LePaul
Reactions:
Posts: 3171
Joined: February 7th, 2016, 10:26 pm
Location: Bangor, Maine USA
3D Printer(s): Ultimaker 2+, FT-5, CR-10, CR-10S, Tevo Tornado
Contact:

Re: Coast at End

Post by LePaul » May 12th, 2017, 1:40 pm

The 2.x series has been rough

I really hate digging for the options the way they currently have it set up.

GrueMaster
Reactions:
Posts: 331
Joined: March 15th, 2017, 8:46 pm
Location: Oregon
3D Printer(s): Hictop 3DP-17, Hictop CR-10S

Re: Coast at End

Post by GrueMaster » May 13th, 2017, 6:56 pm

I have to agree here with nilrog. While I am still learning things about the new Cura (thanks for keeping it open source btw) and other tools, my fall back when I just want to print is 15.04.

User avatar
LePaul
Reactions:
Posts: 3171
Joined: February 7th, 2016, 10:26 pm
Location: Bangor, Maine USA
3D Printer(s): Ultimaker 2+, FT-5, CR-10, CR-10S, Tevo Tornado
Contact:

Re: Coast at End

Post by LePaul » June 6th, 2017, 12:35 pm

Yeah that was a really good version

I really prefer that menu layout for changing settings. The new Cura is a bit overwhelming for additional settings!

I've left "Only retract when crossing open spaces" unchecked and done the same with Coast at End (Off) I need to do some more test prints and see how it works...a few weeks with the Ultimaker 3 spoiled me :)

Post Reply

Return to “Simplify 3D”