nGen ?

Discussion of brand name filaments (ColorFabb Brand, NinjaFlex, Taulman, etc.)
User avatar
LePaul
Posts: 2093
Joined: February 7th, 2016, 10:26 pm
Location: Bangor, Maine USA
3D Printer(s): Ultimaker Original HBK, Ultimaker 2+
Contact:

Re: nGen ?

Postby LePaul » July 5th, 2016, 11:21 pm

Create a thread for that...I don't what that is...so links and info would be nice!

User avatar
martin-bienz
Posts: 172
Joined: February 22nd, 2016, 2:42 am
Location: Switzerland
3D Printer(s): Ultimaker Original, prusa i3 mk2

Re: nGen ?

Postby martin-bienz » July 20th, 2016, 7:44 pm

Just got my first ngen spool and had to try (pretty busy at work atm) ! It's for a functional part that goes outside, that's why ngen. I tried with 235, 75, FAN OFF (thanks amedee), 50mm/s, 0.2 layer height. Turned out pretty well, layer adhesion is ok.

Let's hope the 85 degrees c are enough to withstand the summer sun... :)

User avatar
LePaul
Posts: 2093
Joined: February 7th, 2016, 10:26 pm
Location: Bangor, Maine USA
3D Printer(s): Ultimaker Original HBK, Ultimaker 2+
Contact:

Re: nGen ?

Postby LePaul » July 20th, 2016, 8:59 pm

Did you get massive stringing? No fan.....good idea

User avatar
martin-bienz
Posts: 172
Joined: February 22nd, 2016, 2:42 am
Location: Switzerland
3D Printer(s): Ultimaker Original, prusa i3 mk2

Re: nGen ?

Postby martin-bienz » July 21st, 2016, 2:11 am

LePaul wrote:Did you get massive stringing? No fan.....good idea

no stringing at all, but it was a sort of solid round piece with a bracket so there was not much stringing expected anyway. Coasting was on FYI.

User avatar
LePaul
Posts: 2093
Joined: February 7th, 2016, 10:26 pm
Location: Bangor, Maine USA
3D Printer(s): Ultimaker Original HBK, Ultimaker 2+
Contact:

Re: nGen ?

Postby LePaul » July 21st, 2016, 8:29 am

I'll try that tonight...I'm printing a round hub piece with spokes that have a hole in the middle. Maybe I'll get a good result !

User avatar
Dim3nsioneer
Posts: 207
Joined: February 19th, 2016, 2:13 pm
Location: Zurich Area, Switzerland
3D Printer(s): Ultimaker Original, Ultimaker 2, Ultimaker 3
Contact:

Re: nGen ?

Postby Dim3nsioneer » July 21st, 2016, 2:00 pm

martin-bienz wrote:Just got my first ngen spool and had to try (pretty busy at work atm) ! It's for a functional part that goes outside, that's why ngen. I tried with 235, 75, FAN OFF (thanks amedee), 50mm/s, 0.2 layer height. Turned out pretty well, layer adhesion is ok.

Let's hope the 85 degrees c are enough to withstand the summer sun... :)


For most of Swiss Summer 2016 PLA is enough... ;-)

User avatar
LePaul
Posts: 2093
Joined: February 7th, 2016, 10:26 pm
Location: Bangor, Maine USA
3D Printer(s): Ultimaker Original HBK, Ultimaker 2+
Contact:

Re: nGen ?

Postby LePaul » July 22nd, 2016, 11:24 am

I have today off so I am experimenting with nGen and Cura 2.1.2

First thing I noticed is the fans turned on despite being checked off in Cura.

Trying one of Neotko's shroud pieces as a test, since it has mounting holes

nGenTest.JPG

User avatar
LePaul
Posts: 2093
Joined: February 7th, 2016, 10:26 pm
Location: Bangor, Maine USA
3D Printer(s): Ultimaker Original HBK, Ultimaker 2+
Contact:

Re: nGen ?

Postby LePaul » July 22nd, 2016, 11:44 am

I'm impressed!

But how can I make those holes a bit cleaner?

image.jpeg

User avatar
Neotko
Posts: 952
Joined: February 7th, 2016, 7:02 pm
Location: Madrid
3D Printer(s): UMO+ x2.5
Contact:

Re: nGen ?

Postby Neotko » July 22nd, 2016, 12:02 pm

A drill XD

User avatar
LePaul
Posts: 2093
Joined: February 7th, 2016, 10:26 pm
Location: Bangor, Maine USA
3D Printer(s): Ultimaker Original HBK, Ultimaker 2+
Contact:

Re: nGen ?

Postby LePaul » July 22nd, 2016, 12:14 pm

nGenHub.jpg
I think I found it...Cura 2.1.2 didn't have the right retraction settings (25mm/sec and 3.5mm)

Using the settings from ColorFabb for retraction

User avatar
LePaul
Posts: 2093
Joined: February 7th, 2016, 10:26 pm
Location: Bangor, Maine USA
3D Printer(s): Ultimaker Original HBK, Ultimaker 2+
Contact:

Re: nGen ?

Postby LePaul » July 22nd, 2016, 12:40 pm

Interesting on the first layer. Maybe retraction is too high. It seems to flip the edges up on portions of the layer. A few more layers now flattened it out

User avatar
LePaul
Posts: 2093
Joined: February 7th, 2016, 10:26 pm
Location: Bangor, Maine USA
3D Printer(s): Ultimaker Original HBK, Ultimaker 2+
Contact:

Re: nGen ?

Postby LePaul » July 22nd, 2016, 10:19 pm

I'm not sure what coasting does but my nGen print was alright , not super. A few gaps. But this stuff bridges well, minimal 'hairs' around the circle. And compared to the PLA prints, the back is a lot nicer

PLA on right

image.jpeg
image.jpeg
image.jpeg


It took a lot longer than the PLA version (4.5 hours while nGen took 5.7)

User avatar
LePaul
Posts: 2093
Joined: February 7th, 2016, 10:26 pm
Location: Bangor, Maine USA
3D Printer(s): Ultimaker Original HBK, Ultimaker 2+
Contact:

Re: nGen ?

Postby LePaul » July 25th, 2016, 10:57 am

I've done a number of these parts now...and it seems only nGen can eliminate the "hairy" effects that PLA shows on the bottom of this piece.

I originally did 8 with 25% infill with PLA but I decided to make some with 50% infill since the aluminum frame attachment spots could stand to be beefed up. I need to check, I know the temperature tolerance is higher with nGen, but not sure the strength is any better?

User avatar
Amedee
Posts: 599
Joined: February 15th, 2016, 11:10 am
Location: Brussels, Belgium
3D Printer(s): UMO / UMO+
Contact:

Re: nGen ?

Postby Amedee » August 1st, 2016, 2:04 pm

Phil.

User avatar
LePaul
Posts: 2093
Joined: February 7th, 2016, 10:26 pm
Location: Bangor, Maine USA
3D Printer(s): Ultimaker Original HBK, Ultimaker 2+
Contact:

Re: nGen ?

Postby LePaul » August 1st, 2016, 2:14 pm

Good find, i like his channel!


Return to “Special brand filaments”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests