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Taulman Bridge Nylon

Posted: April 27th, 2016, 3:35 am
by Amedee
Hi everybody!

I am printing 'connectors' for a large structure made of tubes. As I am a bit afraid that that they could break I decided to print them in nylon which flexes more.

The quality of the print itself is very good, but I have adhesion problems.

This one came out OK, but as you can see the brim comes loose very early...


I initially had the bed at 80°C, I pushed to 95°C and it seems to be better (but does not make too much sense as it is above Tg).

As everybody seems to use glue, I used the glue I got with the printer (Blue glue stick from Staples) -- I actually never use glue on my heated bed so it is the first time I used it ;)

The nylon should be reasonably dry -- I did not 'cook it' before use, but it is stored in a dry place and there are no bubble / pops / cracks while printing.

I have to print quite some connectors (a bit bigger that the one in the video) so I cannot afford to much print failures :roll:

Any advice?

Re: Taulman Bridge Nylon

Posted: April 28th, 2016, 1:31 pm
by LePaul
Matter Hackers had an article on this....here it is. Maybe something helpful in there

https://www.matterhackers.com/articles/ ... with-nylon

Re: Taulman Bridge Nylon

Posted: April 28th, 2016, 1:38 pm
by LePaul

Re: Taulman Bridge Nylon

Posted: April 28th, 2016, 2:23 pm
by Amedee
Actually the culprit was the blue glue stick from Ultimaker...

Just used another PVA glue and all problems solved!
(Well, almost, now it is a pain in the **** to get the print off the plate :oops: )



I will carefully store the blue glue stick together with the infamous blue PLA filament from the same vendor :roll:

Re: Taulman Bridge Nylon

Posted: August 10th, 2016, 5:26 am
by drayson
@Amedee, do you had any issues with the higher temp at the print head, especially at the PEEK or PTFE parts?

Re: Taulman Bridge Nylon

Posted: August 10th, 2016, 5:42 am
by Amedee
Not at all.

You don't need very high temperatures for Bridge (ballpark 240-245°C if my memory serves well). As long as you stay under the 250°C limit you should be on the safe side.

I printed 3 spools of bridge for this project, no issue with the PEEK, and the coupler is OK (I say OK because I never changed it since I have the UMO+ so I can't say it is like new, but Nylon didn't damage it)

Re: Taulman Bridge Nylon

Posted: August 10th, 2016, 8:39 am
by Amedee
FYI, just checked my GCode, and I printed everything at 245°C...

Not sure I posted the final result here:
Corners
Corners

Re: Taulman Bridge Nylon

Posted: August 10th, 2016, 10:18 am
by drayson
Thank you !!

gathered some infos to generate a specific material json - here the basic input if anybody else is interested...
will start test printing soon...

[general]
version = 1
type = material
name = Taulman_Bridge

[settings]
layer_height = 0.1
material_print_temperature = 245
material_bed_temperature = 65
material_flow = 107
speed_print = 40
cool_fan_speed = 0
retraction_enable = false

Re: Taulman Bridge Nylon

Posted: August 10th, 2016, 10:23 am
by LePaul
No retractions?

Re: Taulman Bridge Nylon

Posted: August 10th, 2016, 3:12 pm
by drayson
It seems so - that's the info I found...
Amedee, could you please crosscheck - if it works, I'll change it :-)

Re: Taulman Bridge Nylon

Posted: August 10th, 2016, 3:28 pm
by Izzy
What do you guys use to read your gCode?

Re: Taulman Bridge Nylon

Posted: August 10th, 2016, 6:07 pm
by danilius
I print Bridge with the bed at 50C, and use UHU glue stick. Once the bed cools I can usually get the prints off using a penknife to lever it off.

Re: Taulman Bridge Nylon

Posted: August 11th, 2016, 3:40 am
by Amedee
Izzy wrote:What do you guys use to read your gCode?
Plain text editor ;) (vi)

Re: Taulman Bridge Nylon

Posted: August 11th, 2016, 8:40 am
by martin-bienz
Izzy wrote:What do you guys use to read your gCode?
Notepad++ on Windows, fantastic tool.

Re: Taulman Bridge Nylon

Posted: August 11th, 2016, 8:41 am
by martin-bienz
Amedee wrote:
Izzy wrote:What do you guys use to read your gCode?
Plain text editor ;) (vi)
Seriously vi? Wow...I'm impressed. :))